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textread.m: Make m-file a legacy function. * NEWS: Announce change. * scripts/legacy/module.mk, scripts/io/module.mk: Move findstr.m from io/ dir to legacy/ dir. * textread.m: Add Octave:legacy-function warning at top of function. Change docstring to note that this function is obsolete. Add an initial BIST test to trigger legacy-function warning which is then suppressed. * dlmread.cc (Fdlmread): Remove textread from @seealso list. * csvread.m, fileread.m: Remove textread from @seealso list. * debug.cc (Fdbstop): Change documentation to use an example in axis.m rather than textread.m
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1 Summary of important user-visible changes for version 5.0 (yyyy-mm-dd):
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4 ** The functions issymmetric and ishermitian accept an option "nonskew"
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16 common sense and is Matlab compatible. Example:
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27 Option | New Default | Old Default
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28 ------------------------------------------------
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29 FinDiffType | "forward" | "central"
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30 MaxFunEvals | 100*length(x0) | Inf
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79 findstr | strfind
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80 flipdim | flip
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81 isequalwithequalnans | isequaln
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82 isstr | ischar
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83 setstr | char
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84 strmatch | strncmp or strcmp
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85 strread | textscan
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88 ** Deprecated functions.
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94 Function | Replacement
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103 bitmax | flintmax
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106 octave_config_info | __octave_config_info__
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108 sleep | pause
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109 usleep | pause
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